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Are you a Photoshopographer? - photographer Zack Arias say, " If you find yourself shooting a client and you're sayin' in your head 'Oh I'll just fix that later in photoshop' stop what you are doing and slap yourself as hard as you can."

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Comment by Randee Quillin-Mckee on May 16, 2010 at 3:38pm
ugh
Comment by PixelBloke on May 15, 2010 at 4:17pm
How can a plumber be one without a bag of tools?
How can a bricklayer be one without a trowel?
How can a carpenter be one without a saw?
Photoshop is also a bag of tools!
Comment by LUIS CARVAJAL on May 15, 2010 at 12:42pm
I think you are right my friend, if the photographer have to fix them in photoshop he is not a Photographer, that's why when I take photos I try different settings on my camera to accomplish the best results that also my uncle that rest in peace told me for many years, and I use to do the same with film as well.
Comment by Guy Manning on May 13, 2010 at 5:13pm
Also, keep in mind that traditional wet process photography included extensive image manipulation. One of the best at it, was of course Ansel Adams. He was considered a purists purist. Yet he spent hours and days experimenting with manipulative techniques to make the print reflect his pre-visualized concept of the final product. You still see this happening with the works of the people on the APUG site.

People who claim to be purists but do no manipulation should realize that prior to the digital revolution, brought to you by NASA by the way (I was printing their digital negs in 1979), anyone who worked their own prints in a darkroom used dodging and burning, contrast manipulation through paper grades and localized rubbing of heated or diluted developer on the prints, etc. None of these people were accused of not being a "purist" or a "straight" photographer as they were called waaaaay back in the 20th century. :)

IMO, anyone who won't manipulate their images to make them read better is not serious about their work, doesn't care about the quality of their work, and has no concept about the history of the medium they have chosen to use. They may also not realize that the RAW files as presented are NOT realistic to nature, just as the JPG is not. Film and paper have "characteristic curves" created during manufacturing that were designed into the processes so images appeared to the brain to be "normal" to a persons vision. If they were not there, the brain would not accept the images as appearing real. This is the same effect that happens with the brain when viewing these over tweaked HDR images that are so prevalent.
Comment by Guy Manning on May 13, 2010 at 4:39pm
My best reason to use Photoshop.

I use Lightroom for digital asset managment (DAM) and 95% of my image corrections. I use Photoshop on finalized Lightroom images for sizing to final output formats like tiff. If I need to do differential sharpening it can only be done in photoshop.

When applying sharpening to highly textured scenes you will usually screw up the sharpening in the sky. The sky will become somewhat noisy and pixilated. So you create a layer of just the sky, using the magic wand, and apply much lower sharpening to the sky. If you instead sharpen the whole scene for the sky, the foreground will look soft in the print.

Occasionally I go to Photoshop for image manipulation but only if I can't get it right in Lightroom.

Also, for the back discussion in this thread. Just because you don't have/use Photoshop doesn't mean you can't or don't make pretty strong tweaks with the RAW processing program that came with the Canon of Nikon or whatever you own.
Comment by Karen on May 13, 2010 at 10:47am
'3' types of people ; Someone who uses Editing software like photoshop and PaintShopPro ...... For fun.

Is it too late, to request a rum and raisin ice cream, in a sugar wafer cone ?
Comment by PixelBloke on May 13, 2010 at 6:38am
Choc ice for me please H.
Comment by Heinrich Mergel on May 13, 2010 at 6:17am
please hold on for a sec... getting popcorn...
Comment by PixelBloke on May 13, 2010 at 6:00am
So...now that you have defected from the 'Purists' to a self confessed Photoshop user, does this mean that photo manipulators will no longer come under attack from you?
Comment by luis on May 13, 2010 at 3:36am
this world have 2 types of perople
1.people who know how to use photoshop so they use to make better photos
2.people who dont know photoshop and hate people who is using it

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